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Ask Marilyn , the female WM?
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Mild Shock
2024-10-01 22:29:52 UTC
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Holy shit, what would Cantor say?

Q: Dear Marilyn:
Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?

A: Dear Reader:
I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
only a line and a circle, no matter how
large they grow, the circle would have the
greater number of points. (For example, a
one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
out" would be over three miles long.) If
the circle were "filled in" as well, it
would have an even greater number of points
an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
however, would have even more because it
could be said to consist of an infinite
number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
However bad it would be to mow along an
infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
mow the entire lawn it bordered.

https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up
Mild Shock
2024-10-01 23:12:27 UTC
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Marilyn vos Savant, gained fame for holding the Guinness
World Record for the highest recorded IQ.

She answered:

Q: Dear Marilyn:
What will be the best and the worst aspects of computers
that will do our thinking for us someday.

A: Dear Reader:
They have no emotions, and they have no emotions.

https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/192/mode/2up

I recently read 12 Bytes, summarized by ChatGPT:

"What was once taboo—anthropomorphic AI,
emotional robots, and even the concept of girlfriend
robots—is now entering mainstream discussions,
thanks to advancements in AI, robotics, and
societal shifts. While these technologies raise
serious ethical and psychological questions, they also
offer potential solutions to issues like loneliness,
emotional fulfillment, and even sexual companionship.

Jeanette Winterson’s prediction of girlfriend robots in
"12 Bytes" is a reflection of where technology seems
to be headed, but it’s also a call for us to consider
the deeper implications of integrating robots into our
emotional and social lives. Emotion simulation might
be the key to their acceptance, but we’ll need to
navigate the balance between the benefits and the
ethical challenges that come with this new frontier."
Post by Mild Shock
Holy shit, what would Cantor say?
Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?
I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
only a line and a circle, no matter how
large they grow, the circle would have the
greater number of points. (For example, a
one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
out" would be over three miles long.) If
the circle were "filled in" as well, it
would have an even greater number of points
an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
however, would have even more because it
could be said to consist of an infinite
number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
However bad it would be to mow along an
infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
mow the entire lawn it bordered.
https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up
Mild Shock
2024-10-02 15:04:37 UTC
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Hi,
“Man will never reach the moon regardless
of all future scientific advances.”
― Dr. Lee Forest
We are already knocking on the door of emotional
AI, given that many things mentioned in this 2 years
old video, are now artificial via Generative AI.

What is 'dopamine fasting' and
is it good for you? – BBC REEL


The video explains also some pros and cons:

Bye
Marilyn vos Savant, gained fame for holding the Guinness
World Record for the highest recorded IQ.
What will be the best and the worst aspects of computers
that will do our thinking for us someday.
They have no emotions, and they have no emotions.
https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/192/mode/2up
"What was once taboo—anthropomorphic AI,
emotional robots, and even the concept of girlfriend
robots—is now entering mainstream discussions,
thanks to advancements in AI, robotics, and
societal shifts. While these technologies raise
serious ethical and psychological questions, they also
offer potential solutions to issues like loneliness,
emotional fulfillment, and even sexual companionship.
Jeanette Winterson’s prediction of girlfriend robots in
"12 Bytes" is a reflection of where technology seems
to be headed, but it’s also a call for us to consider
the deeper implications of integrating robots into our
emotional and social lives. Emotion simulation might
be the key to their acceptance, but we’ll need to
navigate the balance between the benefits and the
ethical challenges that come with this new frontier."
Post by Mild Shock
Holy shit, what would Cantor say?
Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?
I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
only a line and a circle, no matter how
large they grow, the circle would have the
greater number of points. (For example, a
one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
out" would be over three miles long.) If
the circle were "filled in" as well, it
would have an even greater number of points
an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
however, would have even more because it
could be said to consist of an infinite
number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
However bad it would be to mow along an
infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
mow the entire lawn it bordered.
https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up
Mild Shock
2024-10-02 18:21:32 UTC
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WM the male Marilyn, neiter WM nor Marilyn
have any substance. At least ChatGPT disagrees:

- Elliptic curves are not "hyperbolic," and
Wiles’ proof does not make improper use of
hyperbolic geometry. If vos Savant mentioned
hyperbolic geometry in her critique, it
likely reflects a misunderstanding of the
mathematical concepts involved.

- The Grothendieck axiom in question (e.g.,
Grothendieck universes) is a large cardinal-like
assumption, but Wiles' proof did not require
such axioms for its validity.

Who is right?

See also:
https://chatgpt.com/share/66fd8d7c-3c4c-8013-8afe-b5bfdff7b8ee
Post by Mild Shock
Hi,
“Man will never reach the moon regardless
of all future scientific advances.”
― Dr. Lee Forest
We are already knocking on the door of emotional
AI, given that many things mentioned in this 2 years
old video, are now artificial via Generative AI.
What is 'dopamine fasting' and
is it good for you? – BBC REEL
http://youtu.be/7E8CPBzP1lI
Bye
Marilyn vos Savant, gained fame for holding the Guinness
World Record for the highest recorded IQ.
What will be the best and the worst aspects of computers
that will do our thinking for us someday.
They have no emotions, and they have no emotions.
https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/192/mode/2up
"What was once taboo—anthropomorphic AI,
emotional robots, and even the concept of girlfriend
robots—is now entering mainstream discussions,
thanks to advancements in AI, robotics, and
societal shifts. While these technologies raise
serious ethical and psychological questions, they also
offer potential solutions to issues like loneliness,
emotional fulfillment, and even sexual companionship.
Jeanette Winterson’s prediction of girlfriend robots in
"12 Bytes" is a reflection of where technology seems
to be headed, but it’s also a call for us to consider
the deeper implications of integrating robots into our
emotional and social lives. Emotion simulation might
be the key to their acceptance, but we’ll need to
navigate the balance between the benefits and the
ethical challenges that come with this new frontier."
Post by Mild Shock
Holy shit, what would Cantor say?
Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?
I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
only a line and a circle, no matter how
large they grow, the circle would have the
greater number of points. (For example, a
one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
out" would be over three miles long.) If
the circle were "filled in" as well, it
would have an even greater number of points
an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
however, would have even more because it
could be said to consist of an infinite
number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
However bad it would be to mow along an
infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
mow the entire lawn it bordered.
https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up
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